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Socrates contra Jesus

bust Socrates was certain of his calling but unlike the prophets (Moses, John, Jesus, Allah et al) he had nothing to proclaim…His mission was to search and to question unrelentingly.

Socrates requires no faith in anything including  himself, he demands thought, questioning, testing, and don’t cook the books!  Data is king.  He may not have been the first scientist but his example HIS PRACTISE his way of thinking fits the scientific method.

In summary: Socrates is ‘for the world’ and he’s committed to understanding the world of human community (the polis) by the use of rational thought. His is the love of wisdom, of giving oneself to the never-ending search for the truth.  Within the “Socratic Method” there was no room for dogmatic beliefs based on custom, culture  and opinion.

Jesus by contrast was a champion of ‘devotional ethics’.
DEVOTIONAL ETHICS
· The experiential (the ‘heart’)
· Poetic-passionate
· Concerned with individuals (personal)
· Salvation through faith in an Almighty God
· Liberation from sin and guilt
· ‘Ethical being’
· ‘Right attitude/predisposition’
· Obedience to the will of God

Jesus’ way of communicating that goes directly to the ‘hearts’ and ‘souls’ of individual men and women. ‘Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven’, ‘fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom…The ‘Jesus’ mood is one of dread and jubilation.

This mix of ‘fear, anxiety and good news’, is apparent in the subjectivist approaches of the Protestant Reformers (Luther, Calvin et al). They all fall, with Jesus, within the same, subjectivist paradigm of understanding in which reason and metaphysical thought have no real place.

In contrast to the type IV approach of a Confucius: Jesus goes to the ‘core of being’, not ‘outward action’. JESUS constantly focuses his listeners’ attention on the great choice that they have to make: " What is this one important thing? Each man is faced with the terrible alternative: to be accepted in the kingdom of heaven or rejected….’No man can serve two masters…Ye cannot serve God and mammon’. In contrast to the concern with rational thought in types I and II: Jesus speaks in concrete terms, expresses intelligible ideas, utters definite commandments…But all his direct statements are vehicles of a meaning which ultimately evades rational interpretation. Jesus shows little concern for logical consistency.

Posted in Uncategorized 1 year, 5 months ago at 8:39 am.

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  1. Elizabeth Aug 25th 2010

    I read “fear nor, little fuck” at first. Jesus should have stuck with his day job.

    Speaking of Jesus, found out recently that my paternal great grandmother who I knew as Granny down here in L.A. (Lower Alabama) was actually Blanche Applebaum from New Jersey!

    Secrets…

  2. richard Aug 25th 2010

    So you’re an Applebaum.

    I am a Jew. Never practised nor read the Torah or donned a yarmulke. My grandmother was a hungarian jew. As a child she worked in a cigar factory. She made an amazing Apple Studel with yeast dough that was stretched so thin you could see thru it. The dough is stretched on a table top then sprinkled with grated apples, raisans, ginger, nutmeg, sugar and rolled up and baked … entirely different than the Pastry Strudel the stores sell. If I’d been in Germany they’d have popped me straight in the oven. Or maybe not.

    I remember the first time I met kv’s parents. Kathy had moved in with me at the Sutton Place in Toronto and at first disappeared on the weekend to visit her parents - they owned a Panabode Cabin on an Island in the St. Lawrence near Gananoque. Funny how as we get older we remember things 50 years old and can’t find our car keys. That’s how I remember my first visit to “Stave”. Little did I know at the time that bragging about my GrandMother that first evening - doomed my marriage - albeit nothing is ever that simple and I would not change a heartbeat. I did it and I got the T-Shirt.

  3. Elizabeth Aug 25th 2010

    You’d have missed the dance!

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